WebEyes Wide Shut Mask Woman - Etsy Browse a wide selection of eyes wide shut mask woman and face coverings available in various fabrics and configurations, made by a (3) With the advent of cyberspace, and just simple disinterest many newspaper companies have gone under. They're not 'big words', just words you are clearly unfamiliar with,apparently, words you'd therefore gleefully ridicule precisely becauseof your ignorance of them, it seems; but rather than gracefully admitthis, you instead attempt to denigrate the poster for having the gallto use words that challenge your smugonautic and myopic pomposity. I think the voice would have rung a bell and > the Newspaper story rang a bell, with the name Amanda, and of course > seeing the corpse of someone who may have sacrificed her life for him--so > he was in shock. If we speculate too far then we could say it was ALL a Charade. In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is) on the balcony looking down at Bill, knows that it is him and nodded to him. >What else could he call it? Padraig has been writing about film online since 2012, when a friend asked if he'd like to contribute the occasional review or feature to their site. Yes, and we could speculate even further: there are no dream sequenceswhatsoever in the film, Alice's story about the navel officer being arecollection of her past desires, not a portrayed dream as such atall. But that's not the half of it. I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. That is what she was" implying that her deathis of no consequence because of the low-status manner in which Zieglerchooses to define her (an identity created and perpetuated by theZieglers of the world in the first place), earlier confirmed by hisdesire to get the drugged-out Mandy out of his bathroom and house("Can we put some clothes on her and get her out of here?" The Redeemer's voice does sound alot like Mandy's voice, both with a hint of a New York accent. Well at least you're ostensibly modest enough to acknowledge yourunfamiliarity with such a concept, but then you proceed to betray yourdumb, sniggering agenda by perpetuating your ignorance with adismissive, anti-intellectual fart: > My extra-fat dictionary yields the> following: "rhi'zome, n. A rootlike stem under or along the ground,> ordinarily in a horizontal position, which usually sends out roots from> from its lower surface and leafy shoots from its upper surface.". On Feb 26, 3:27 pm, "Avoid normal situations. we talked about this about 8 years ago on this newsgroup . Bill is ushered to a crowded room and unmasked by the master of ceremonies. The point, however, is that even if all three female'characters' are the same woman (and so, effectively, the samecharacter), this serves to set up even more contradictions, not tomention buying in to Ziegler's warped, patriarchal world."<<<<<<<<<<. > Well I hope you see now that this is clear after reading the dialogue. Put on some headphones and listen. He only ultimately acceptsZiegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). The film revolves around the tension between these twophenomena; it is about this tension): 1. desiring Amanda Curran to bethe Mandy from Ziegler's party would confirm his guilt - in hisprofessional capacity as a doctor attending a patient in need - aboutleaving her fate in the hands of Ziegler, serving power rather thanmorality or medical ethics, a guilt he now seeks to redress byimmediately going to visit Amanda/Mandy at the hospital to try andredeem himself; and 2. desiring Amanda to be the masked woman, a womanwho seemingly redeems Bill's Somerton-crashing guilt for him via theSomerton 'charade.'. Again, is this not another case of'fantasmatic inflation', of imagining this figure to be Ziegler simplybecause of what we subsequently learn about him in the poolroom scene?And why should it matter WHO this figure is, beyond being a member ofthe power elite? But which'party' is Bill referring to? Poor Clark. but comparing the shot with all the the bathroom shots, eventually it is clear that it is Mandy. i'm sure he knew that aaudiences would be sophisticated enough toexamine the bodies as bill is doing in the morgue. Those critics of EWS must have been delerious. How doesshe know this? I recognized the voice of the mysterious woman first time I saw the film. He discovers an underground sexual group and attends one of their meetings -- and quickly discovers that he is in over his head. But what he was getting at was whether it was murder and a sacrifice for him, which makes him feel responsible, since it would not have happened had he not been there. It is also perhaps worth pointing out that the Somerton events, thoughso described in countless reviews and commentaries on the film - arenot accurately called an orgy, as that would imply that female, inaddition to male, sexual desire would find free expression at such anevent. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. > >>>>>> But which 'party' is Bill referring to? Tom Cruise in the Masked Ball ritual scene from Stanley Kubrick's masterpiece Eyes Wide Shut with Jocelyn Pook's haunting score filling the temple. In a > case like that a pwerson would go through the various possibilities in his > mind, but he was kinda busy. And how does Bill know that a cape and a mask was appropriate attire? I am ready <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<. A powerful man realizes one night that his wife has had not one but myriad <<<<<<<<<<<>. It's a kind of dissassociation from reality, and an obsessive flight of ideas, into endless, words and meta-words. Statanic mass? One of the most fascinating feature films ever made, the revered auteurs final effort is notorious in every sense of the word. WebSynopsis. "you are going to need some rehab," she says, >> "I know.">. Plus there is *no* *way* that a rare bookdealer would smoke anywhere near a book of which there are only threecopies in existence. This is Eyes Wide Shut revisited. He treated her as a not-very-importantpatient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery. He only ultimately accepts Ziegler's account because itgives him a convenient alibi (as well as because of Ziegler's powerfulposition - Bill is Ziegler's man, obeying his orders, subscribing tothe demands and realities of Ziegler's world). The second, and more terrifying suggestion, is the mask is a final warning from the secret society for Bill to drop any further investigation or the fate that befell the woman who saved him could be visited upon Alice. Eyes Wide Shut is Stanley Kubrick's final movie starring Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman, but what does the mask on the pillow near the end mean? and> pleading with her to take off her mask? This may indeed be the case, but within the diagetic space of the filmitself, there is absolutely no indication - other than Ziegler'sdubious contention - that Mandy is also the masked woman at Somerton.There could even have been two deaths. For instance,it's fairly obvious from the start who the Mysterious Woman is. Eyes Wide Shut cast Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman as a married couple, with the former playing a doctor who goes on a strange, sexually charged journey one Other interpretations are floating around, including the idea Alice was also at the party, and while there's no set meaning for how the mask got on that pillow, the idea Alice put it there herself seems to be the prevailing theory. I found them both disappointing. What a joke to call them "philosophers." <<<<<<<<<<<. (Just like we dream alone, even if we're in bed with someone else.). Orgy? He wasn't positive. EWS was potential. The rhizomatic uncertainties anduncanny inconsistencies multiply And it is not immediately clearwhether Bill connects this Amanda to the masked woman at Somerton orto the overdosed Mandy in Ziegler's bathroom. Alot was going on, he had to figure it out. Are you suggesting that the people running Somerton would let thewomen there know that there was an interloper? To take Tess or Barry Lyndon in the same context is perhaps moreappropriate to various periods stylistically divergent from an intentor device for Picasso to depict women;- a later advancement thatneedn't further qualification than figures posed in gold, as was aliteral premium exacted upon proceeds, so written by one later model,over stipends derived from the estate. > that unless they are encoded in single frames for analysis will alwasy be > a mystery. As 1999 approached, what little was known about Eyes Wide Shut was almost indecently tantalising. The masked woman was played by a different actor but is the samecharacter. I am normally the last guy in the> world to criticize somebody for using big words. It is only when Ziegler responds> positively to Bill's question, "The woman at the party is the woman in> the morgue?" There are many, many readings of the story available, with the movie itself embracing a sort of dream/nightmare logic. The silence of the empty mind, like the silent empty space we see in 2001, is the best path to curing your mania. > <<<<<<< after> visiting the morgue, as his disbelief at Ziegler's explanation> indicated. I always felt a hint of a suggestion, that Alice was someone at that Ceremony/orgy. The film centers on a profoundly unsatisfied couple tied together not by pure love, but by social convenience and appearances. >>>>>>>>> And even if it was clear, even if he had> referred directly to the events of the night before as the (Somerton)> party, it would still be uncertain, because>> 1. ", and for those whom may have something like an actual interest in, > In rec.arts.movies.past-films Kelpzoidzl <. http://groups.google.com/group/alt.movies.kubrick/browse_frm/thread/16629c3d6011a459/705fb749859063b2?lnk=gst&q=treadmill#705fb749859063b2. Again. I don't think there were any other dreams, although the redpool table scene always seemed the most dreamlike to me. How manypayments of $19.99 was that, again?-- "History is a lie agreed upon." If it'ssupposed to be obvious, then why is it treated as such a great revelation,and why is a character who is presented as being reasonably intelligentso dense as not to see it? I am still on the side of those who think SK left that scene of the reflection of the sound man holding the boom mike at his crotch, in the crome tub enclosure, on purpose, that the DVD edited out. I am normally the last guy in theworld to criticize somebody for using big words, but, besides that you'renot bothering, even, to use them correctly, the way that you are using themserves to obfuscate rather than clarify your meaning. In Dr. Bill's "dream," the masked woman he meets (played by Abigail Good) and who he later sees dead in the morgue, is a distortion of the woman he met at the party when he was still "awake" partying with his wife. > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." He treated her as a not-very-important> patient; no Mandys attend Bill's upmarket surgery.>, Apparently word of Bill's entry into the ceremony/orgy traveled fast.>, > How? In a buddhist sutra, Sakyamuni, criticized the compulsive mental masturbators and referred to them as people "counting ganges sands." Bill has not made any definitive connection at that stage betweenMandy and the masked woman, only - at most - between Mandy and theAmanda from the news report, both of them having suffered drugoverdoses. So, they joined Snctm because they heard it was the best of the best in the Bill is still even denying he knows what Zeigler > is talking about till Zeigler says "I was there at the house. Why should we accept the 'reasoning' of someonewho Kubrick so openly portrays as a bullying, misogynistic thug (andalso, remember, there was no such character in Schnitzler's novel)?Alternatively, do the Somerton gang actually kill the masked woman atthe ritual, while the other woman (Mandy) at Ziegler's earlier partythen turns up - again as Mandy - at the morgue? It was a party nevertheless. Desire is always Other. WebThe bodies of more completely nude masked women assail Bills voyeuristic eyes (and those of the audience). -- Steven L.Email: sdli@earthlinkNOSPAM.net, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oB6g66OYoKI, "Steven L." wrote in message. It would be odd for him to say, "orgy," or ritual, etc. He could choose to call it many things, but 'party'? > it is clearly the same voice as the "mysterious woman." So if instead, he replayed Alice's voice (or Ziegler's voice) thiswould 'prove' that the body was that of Alice (or Ziegler)? I think it is clear he was referring to the Somerton party. ", "They were nutcases. Even Ziegler only uses that wordin reference to his own earlier party, while referring to the Somertonrituals always more elusively: "I was there, at the House", "what ifwhat happened was a fake, a charade", etc, but no mention of any'party' at Somerton. Well, in the interview with "Mandy" - Julienne Davis. She helps Bill at the >>In a big crowd of masked people, Zeigler (his eyes give away who he is)>, > So why didn't Bill also recognise the identity of this masked figure> on the basis of his eyes?<<<<<<<<<<<<, > This is simple. > anything and 2. never actually spoke (just some unintelligible > mumbling),<<<, > No, she clearly says "sorry" to Zeigler when he says "you gave us a scare > kiddo" and then Bill asks her, "How are you feeling now Mandy?" I agree though, he hadnt made a defintiive connection yet. People and Masks: The Meaning of Eyes Wide Shut. 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