Thanks. E.g. Its probably confirmation bias but I do think they are good value especially with their very regular sales. Below that, there are smaller differences created by new entrants to the market. Porter?). Just make sure Trickers does not end up too chunky for you. Quality control for us sticklers has been in question dating back to the aughts. So for example, they now only curve the waist line on the inside of their shoe, and not the outside. Im looking to acquire a couple of pairs of tassel loafers (one dark brown suede and one black calf). Buying a pair of Meermins is not a decision that you are going to regret, trust me. They look nice to me, but as I have only been buying shoes from British shoemakers, I am unsure whether their last may look showy or unusual comparison. You can use these comfortable shoes to show up appropriately for most events, in the most positive ways possible. As mentioned in the top comment, we were focusing on shoes under 300. Interesting times and personal style journey. CJ or Alden or even something slightly lower end like Lof & Tung that is made more tastefully) and higher end makers (e.g. It was a bit controversial, I remember some who felt pinpointed argued quite strongly against it. 4. * **Viberg 2030** 8 snug but not too tight, * **Viberg 2030** 8.5 a bit loose in the heel in CXL, comfortable when laced tightly all the way up, * **Winson OLD Edlyn** EU41 sized on advice of Emil via foot measurements, a touch short. Theyre perhaps most similar to Skolyx, in being a very simple make but with good materials. I'll try to be fairly comprehensive Loake Bullet last (F-fit): 7Uk fits but a bit tight around toes. I believe shoes like Meermin have a place in Menswear. I have experienced Cheaney a fair bit, my first two pairs of English shoes were from Cheaney main line (I still have one of them), plus I have worn Cheaneys imperial range as well as C&J mainline shoes. Are there other difference? Hugs my foot like a glove on all sides, including the arch, but I wouldn't mind if the heel was a bit more snug. Made in Spain. Arch support is nowhere near the 55 last but feels much more substantial than any other maker listed. Or about 9.5D right foot and 9.4D left foot. Ive decided to get a pair of loafers, which Id wear with flannels, chinos, dark denim and (occasionally) shorts. I have a pair of MacNeil long wings made in 1977, two years before I was born, that I acquired used and had resoled. Its a comfortable, yet roomy fit. I spoke to folks at Carmina and got somewhat mixed opinions, the wrench in the equation being size variances on the lasts for both unlined and shell materials. Last month, Swedish shoe brand Myrqvist (above) sent me a pair of their loafers to try. Well start with three Swedish ones, all making in Spain or Portugal. 9.5D heel to ball, just a smidge under 9.5D on heel to toe. Allen Edmonds Sizing to Carmina & Meermin Those that have Allen Edmonds and carmina or meermins, what size do you wear in AE compared to the others? in fact my favourite leather is meermin museum calf, while meermin llama I dont really like, and I wouldnt touch their black box calf with a 10 pole. Similar articles on suits, jackets, shirts etc are desperately needed. Bespoke obviously solves this but I dont care enough about the other elements you get and pay for with bespoke, or perhaps I just think 2k+ is too much and I suspect (hope?) Alden Aberdeen 9.5D: Great fit. Rafal hails from Poland and is a shoemaker who creates each pair of shoes by himself. Very nice article. I did have a little heel slip in the beginning that went away. Fully bespoke shoes including trial pair start from about 550 depending on the exchange rate, and they offer ready to wear / MTO lines of various grades between 65 and 450. in 9D my feet can slide right out. 7.5UK fits well with thicker socks. The latter is more obvious on the outside of a shoe, and you would certainly get less with Alden for example. Update: had to take the leather insert out, just couldn't deal with how shallow the toe box is. Carmina shoes are more comfortable, stable, flexible, durable, and stylish than the Meermin shoes. Our featured affiliate vendor of the week is a brand new affiliate vendor, the artisan Bespoke Shoemaker Szuba. Im a scrooge but think this is crucial to include in your mental budget. I've come to think of myself as a 10E. P-79 last 10D: Excellent fit right out of the box with thick or thin socks. Sometimes they run big and sometimes they run small. In contrast, Ive always found EGs service excellent but my interactions (outside of lockdown) are entirely based on the Jermyn Street store and I cant say Ive asked for anything unusual. As of late, I found that the cost differential between Crockett & Jones and Carmina has become more significant. Anyone that gets these Carmina shoes for their wardrobe would be getting some of the best style statements of their lives. Still tapered in in waist and heel for a comfortable lock in, but with more room in the toe box and at the ball. Thanks Robin. Whites Barrie 8.5D: Felt too tight on the instep brand new. I will refrain from commenting on fit unless people think it will be helpful. The instep is high, but massive on the service boot pattern. My C&J 337 is a bit loose in 10UK but too tight in 9.5UK; my Carmina Simpson Oxford is comfortably snug in 10UK (which is how I like my shoes to fit.) Absolutely do not take it 1.5 down from Brannock like Viberg recommends. To put JC on the same shelf as JL, EG, STC and the like is certainly a stretch. The high end, aspirational item is necessary too and will always be a hallmark of your site, but I believe you have wisely corrected a too marked journey into luxury where many less of us could have followed. 4 3 3 comments Best Add a Comment hjordan28141 2 yr. ago * **Gaziano Girling TG73** 8.5EUK comfortable but slight pinching at pinky toe, * **Grant Stone Leo** 8.5D super comfortable boot last, bit roomy, * **Joe Works JOE-0** 8UK instep too low - v gap in oxford laces, * **Loake Capital** 8UK snug with room at the toe, perfect fit, * **Lof and Tung S** 8UK great fit though instep is perhaps a bit high, * **Mattina N** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain, * **Mattina C** 42EU Great fit with little to no heel slip, instep is like Loake Capital/Carmina Rain. You might also care more with a dress oxford than a casual loafer. Ive since moved on to other brands because I wanted higher quality. I found a pair on sale for about $100 more than those, however, so I figured I'd give them a try. (Portuguese shoemaker) Permanent Style is the UK authority on classic and luxury menswear. AEs MacNeil is the epitome of wingtips imho. And they are one of the very few brands offering something for the ladies. They are extremely comfortable and very good value in my opinion. Career and job listings in fashion, mens clothing, Reviews of Classifieds and classifieds sellers, No Man Walks Alone - Official Affiliate Thread (a.k.a. These are two of the best known shoe brands internationally, with Crocketts a British mainstay and Carmina (above) coming to prominence in the past 10 years. The insoles also havent molded to the shape of my foot as I would expect by this point. No idea what size I'd need to make this last work but I'd guess something like 9.5EE. If you also have small heels and struggle to find well fitting good year welt leather shoes, I wholeheartedly recommend Japanese brands who have leather shoes that are specifically designed for the Japanese feet. I also have a pair of Loding chelsea boots (and other Loding things) I think in the end theyre too narrow for me. Bought before I understood my size. Fit seemed good at first but toe box is just too narrow for extended wear. Alden Grant: 9E is a wonderful fit for me in 4060 boots with medium socks. My personal thoughts are as follows: Loake As the article suggests, the Loake 1880 is the bare minimum you should go for. Meermins can be bought at prices between $160 and $210 in the online and offline marketplaces today. Should fit most people TTS. I shouldn't have slept on it), Monitaly Shawl Field Jacket - Black Herringbone 38, The unofficial NMWA Buy/Sell Thread (a.k.a. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. I have, however, experienced considerably worse service at some of the establishments of allegedly higher grade companies, whose products I could easily afford, but whose customer service proved to be a very effective deterrent. Regarding AE, theres certainly been a change since their most recent acquisition in 2017. Still fine for the price point, as this piece suggests, but the quality control is miserable. If you will be ordering from the Trickers website, I suggest going over the fine print. Job done. Thanks Aidan. The quality of the leather on my particular pair isnt as good as the Loake 1880 (or any of the other brands) but overall these are a well constructed pair of shoes. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, This is an example of what a good comment looks like. There is one new Brand Lethato seen on different portals and I saw their boots are attractive and reasonably priced. Feels okay but gets painful in the midfoot as the day progresses. Like the arbitrary claim that the soles on English soles wear out more quickly than European ones. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Among the many pairs I tried a pair of color 8 CXL beefrolls were the best fitting. Edward Green)? Im not sure who and why the person you talked with from Barker said anything else, but a quick visit to their website or just a Google will you show you that he or her were wrong. Most of our ready to wear production goes from size 6UK to 12UK, but if you happen to wear a smaller or larger size, we can definitely help & specially make any pair from our collection for you. Thankfully, that isnt true of all high end companies that Ive experienced and, in general, I have found that the quality of the service matches that of the product. *Although I trust Jespers impartiality, it needs to be stated that he now works for Skolyx, which has its own shoe brand and sells other shoes. Ive purchased a few Grenson pieces this year. Allen Edmonds 511G 9.5D: Slightly long and a bit too voluminous, was meant to be worn with dress socks, end up wearing it with boot socks to make it fit. For the price, Meermins are actually really good shoes.if(typeof ez_ad_units!='undefined'){ez_ad_units.push([[336,280],'footslide_com-leader-2','ezslot_16',118,'0','0'])};__ez_fad_position('div-gpt-ad-footslide_com-leader-2-0'); In the long run, Carmina shoes are better shoes than Meermins. There are many levels at tanneries, and cheaper brands dont get the same quality or the first selection. Noel it is precisely the point you make that has been behind my long standing decision to stay with C&J over all these years. Its got a bit of a shorter toe relative to the heel to ball. I dont cover the other brands on this list normally either. Total:1,176 (members:154, guests:1,022), Preorders, Group Made-to-order, trunk shows, and o. Ive spent up to $2000 on a suit or sports jacket or coat on various occasions but have never spent more than $350 on a pair of shoes. #EasyLifeESMenBoots #DopeBoots #Meermin #CarminaBoots #ShellCordovanBoots #EasyLifeES #CasualMenBoots #MereminPlumMuseumCalf #Meerminbelts---ALL UB playlist-. The level above that is made in Japan, and includes brands like Scotch Grain (above) and Otsuka, with brands like Miyagi Kogyo and Oriental on a level above that. Santoni I have experienced, and I would say the same. Truman P-79 9D: Nice fit. I have some upcoming which Ill be updating once arrived. Barrie 9.5D: Bad fit. I think Carmina sizing, at first, looks simple but if you read into it, there are lots of strange variations. This post is an epitome of that, and I may well take the opportunity to praise your reflection. Still pretty good value (it is the company I originally used before I could afford better) but not nearly as good as it was some time ago. So yes, you get more durable suede shoes higher up in the price ranges. Brilliant. The question there is how long such value lasts, when the company grows or takes on new costs. Goto-san requires tracings to be sized in these and you really should have them done. That said, something in the post did strike me negatively, on a subject I previously had been puzzled about: appraisal of Allen Edmonds. But have you ever disclosed your so called financial situation regarding your reviews you dont pay full price if any price for all these garments you have made for yourself, correct? That would be much less possible for me at higher price points. Something to keep in mind. I'm looking at a cobbler union in a 312 last they recommended 1.5 down from brannock. CNES and Fugashin are both high quality shoes and I carefully compared them before deciding that Fugashin was the better and choosing it as my Shoemaker. Decent fit all around and should break in nicely. 3. Alexander 9E/9.5D: Excellent fit when worn sockless. I bought AS through him when they were the best value for money in higher end shoes then moved to C&J on his advice. I also happen to like their lasts, which are sleeker than anything else I own but the C&J 348. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? It's a strange feeling last, but I can make it work. Skolyx is easily the best budget tier brand I have come across. Putting that all aside, what do you think is the difference between mid-range makers (e.g. Loake is not anywhere near. Being cheaper is an objective description of price. Great article I wonder what you think of the dilemma I currently find myself in?.. It is still quite hard to fathom the yearly price increases on EG shoes given their pitiful customer service. The fact is that Cheaney have one flagship store and the vast bulk of their business is on line whilst JL are paying for expensive locations and staff explains all at the end of the day its not so complicated. Really good customer service is important to me and is one of the things that keeps me going back. Customers cant stop talking about Carminas. Worth asking. Custom ordered these with a combination last of 9.5E toe and 9.5D heel. Cnes (above), for example, has been exhibiting in various fairs around Europe, looking for retailers, and is very nicely made, with a bevelled waist and otherwise refined make. A good pair of these would really satisfy your footwear style needs for a really long time. They have a lot of life left in them. Loake1880 is good starting point and it used to be a very good value. Theyre both very big brands now.. Yes literally hard as rock but very nice looking in their box.. Agree Alan, buyer beware that they are extremely hard to break in. I suppose they get away with it because the overwhelming majority of their customers arent that knowledgeable about shoes or leather quality. New product releases, daily discussion and community building with a common interest in quality footwear. Non-sense. Red Wing Iron Rangers (Last 8): 10D, forefoot stretched to be very comfortable. The quality Crockett & Jones is now significantly better than Trickers, both sole and uppers. If anything, I would say last and design are the least obvious things they are the easiest ones to mimic. One brand not mentioned were the French company Bexley. The other thing about Carmina is they have increased prices and reduced quality in some areas in recent years. And the soles are much more flexible too, more similar to a Blake stitched shoe than a Goodyear welted one. So, in summary, if you look at the price, most of Carmina's shoes cost 329 or 395 or $475, and for that amount of money, the range of last you get is quite good. I would like to recommend Trading Post in Japan. Where would you fit in Carlos Santos? Will it be in Spain 1 or Spain 2 in your list? I guess the issue is that I've not worn an English shoe before. I think it makes sense for C&J to stick to making shoes and not running shops. He is, at the moment, offering something special forum readers. Thus, not likely to be much different from your C&J in terms of make, but the last and the leather may differ. Carmina Simpson Chelsea boot - 9.5 UK. That point has been removed until it can be proved either way. Sizing as 10E and filling in vertical space as needed seems to offer the best fit, without any of the above problems. Youre right, the second pair are a little more casual, but I think either would be OK and personally I prefer the shorter apron of the former. Barefoot, thick socks, whatever. Oliver 9.5E: Excellent fit with thin socks, like a glove custom-molded to my foot. I usually just buy shoes in the 500 range when they go on sale for 200-300, but in the 300 range I really like the Austrian manufacturer Handmacher; they make shoes on traditionally boxy Viennese lasts, and they use tiny wooden nails to connect the soles to the uppers. The sort of thing that Septieme Largeur really excel in . However, when I visited meermin pop up in London, I dont think I would ever get a black box calf from them! If one do good research ahead of placing an order (not just go by brand names and heritage, doesnt work anymore in the bespoke shoe world), choose a brand that suits ones style and preferences for shoes, the chance youll get your best shoes ever are very high. This is the next level down of Spanish brands, more on a par with the Swedish start-ups in terms of quality, but much bigger organisations. Edward Green does for example. The difference between, for example, C&J and EG is the same as the difference between them and the cheaper shoes. Can you please comment on the poor quality of English soles mentioned. Rancourt 114 9D: Great fit sometimes. Sendra is a factory that makes for a lot of cheaper start-ups, because theyre so flexible and have no minimums. Theyre a good place to start: a baseline of quality. Click Here to join Styleforum's thousands of style enthusiasts today! It wont make them extremely soft, but should help in the process. Any feedback from you on this brand. Quality control seems to be non-existent. I have a pair of 9D shell chukkas that fits well, but after 2 months still has a little heel slip. Asics GT2000: 11 - Perfect fit. Carmina shoes have soles that are durable and very comfortable in their design, due to the Goodyear Welt construction used to hold them in place. Ive purchased two pairs over the past 10 months from brands in this article. Of course choice is more limited, and its more pot luck, but who doesnt love a bargain? and maybe as far as a 37 in the Tanino, though that is a very rare size. RM Williams Comfort Craftsman: 9.5G AUS - Great fit. Back to Morjas specifically. 6.5D Carmina: 5.5: UK: Forest, Robert - 5.5UK: 6.5D Carmina Forest: 5.5: UK: 5.5UK with a smidge of heel slip: I have wide feet (I wear 8EEE on the 65 last in Allen Edmonds) so almost none of the regular lasts fit me, except for Forest 7.5EEE. Travel Shoes Poll: What shoes do you bring with you on short trips? I now have 3 different pairs on that Cheaney last. Doc Martens or Loake 1880 for Chelsea boots ? The former is made in Spain, the latter in Portugal. Really useful local knowledge, thanks David. Not sure I'd feel the same today. If you wanted something sleeker, and dont mind it being slightly more delicate then JM Weston. Old Edlyn is equivalent to a 41.5, * **Winson Qilin** EU42 fantastic fit all round, * **Winson Stark** EU42 Great fit on an engineer, instep is high enough to slip and and off and there is only a bit of heel slip due to the shaped heel. Simon, I doubt even your wealthier readers walk around every day in 500 plus shoes. me, Morjas and Skolyx have been better in that regard. Everyone in London should visit John and ask for his advice on shoes. The US has several brands that fit into this discussion - some old, some new. This helped me understand why sizing as 10D was actually very bad advice and never worked out well. Put simply, if you pay 250 for a shoe you cannot get 500 quality. Nobody wants a bad fitting pair of strides but at least they wont cause you physical pain. I do appreciate your recommendations to other blogs/websites/magazines as its not always easy to spot good work in the vast numbers of style websites. both pairs have a dainite (or dainite-type, in Meermin's case) sole the Meermins have blind eyelets, whereas the Carminas have a brass eyelet that look to match the speedhook finish the heel on the Carminas is quite a bit longer than Meermin's Throughout this commentary from Jesper, its worth keeping in mind that some of the points are objective, some more subjective. Actually Im surprised Crownhill wasnt mentioned here, I thought they were quite popular. Check the Noble Shoe eshop for several decent ones. the Meermins have four speedhooks and a pull tab, whereas the Carminas have three and forego the tab. Ive also, more recently, experienced the customer service at GC and G&G excellent in both cases, as was the consistently good service at the Little Cheaney shop in Leeds, when I lived in the North of England. An interesting read. American brands seem to be better at this (Alden, AE). Lovely article! I have given up after several wears as the blisters arent worth it. Additional notes: Heel-to-toe is 10, width on the border of D/E; heel-to-ball is 11. Given I can purchase a pair of CJ for 650 retail shipped from England this is not a great value. I had the hope it would get softer and stretch a bit. And they are a Canadian brand not American. Carminas are better than Meermin shoes today because of one major thing: Better Material Quality. The subreddit about quality footwear. Cross posting in case any regular readers of this thread can help. Very comfortable, heel is a smidge roomy, but overall an extremely comfortable last. Perhaps I need to re-examine what value I place on shoes. Frankly, I wouldnt wear anything else. I would note that although the shoes I own have tight sole stitching, C&J models without pinking on the soles (for example, the Sydney with rubber soles) are noticeably less sleek. Ive found one Cheaney last with a wide toe box that works for me by sizing down so that the heel fits but very little success with other makers. Personally, I like their lasts quite a bit. Both of my pinky toes stick slightly out, sometimes I say I have splayed toes, but it's really just the pinky toe on each foot likes a bit of room. It's other Asian brands that are likely to become known in the West first, though. But now I can confidently say this was the right choice and it is worth breaking that arch in to get fit and support of this level. Even though mine are lace-ups, breaking in has actually been very easy and I also feel like they are totally worth the money. While I like the imperial range, I disagree that Cheaney are at a similar level to C&J; even to my untrained eye the upper leather doesnt seem comparable (scuffs more easily) and is thinner. TLB Mallorca: I own a wingtip on the Alan last. At first glance, you should be able to tell, to an extent, if a pair of shoes would be a good fit for you or not. Surprisingly minimal break-in but it's been a long time. are priced above the equivalent Allen Edmonds, usually at an Alden equivalent price. Is there a reason for that? and a pair of natural CXL beefrolls were very loose I could slide right out of them. TLB is from Mallorca, like Carmina, but is only a few years old and is trying to gain a similar reputation. "Another area where a lot of the English makers fall down, at this price level and below, is the soles, which aren't as good as Spanish brands in general. Great Stone Alexander 8.5D: Mostly great fit but too much heel slippage. I have room for my toes, but my foot isnt rattling around. There's a tiny bit more room at the ball too now. A lot of influencers will also swear that it is box calf, which goes a long way to show either their incompetence or lack of integrity. Check Availability Meermin Wingtips Review The heel is the most notably roomier and the length actually seems to be the same. Even more troubling is that I found no review by an established website stating so. Based on reviews, Im hopeful. The heel stiffener is a piece of the internal structure of the shoe, which sits inside the heel cup. Low instep fits me perfectly. Vanity may well be part of the explanation, its hard to say. These shoes have seen some heavy use and have been worn at least twice as much as the previous pair. Free shipping for many products! I have been wearing several pairs for ~18 years without an issue besides replacement of a couple of degraded rubber heel soles. I agree they provide an excellent service and are great ambassadors for the brand, which is why I think it is clever of them as a company not to be involved in the complexity of rents, leases, employees etc. Hence, vanity wins (maybe). *UPDATE: Carmina say they do not use plastic heel stiffeners. 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